In July, our co-founder Janine Benyus took a trip to the UK to meet with Kate Raworth, the renegade economist behind Doughnut Economics Action Lab (DEAL). Janine had a one-on-one conversation with Kate for Serpentine Galleries’ Back to Earth Project—about looking beyond artificially-imposed boundaries in order to consider the whole, learning from other species, and finding new ways to thrive.